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	<link>http://www.foundinceylon.com/2006/09/30/english-education-in-sri-lanka/</link>
	<description>A deaf American volunteer goes to Sri Lanka to work at a school for deaf children in Matara.</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gloria</title>
		<link>http://www.foundinceylon.com/2006/09/30/english-education-in-sri-lanka/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>gloria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 20:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.foundinceylon.com/2006/09/30/english-education-in-sri-lanka/#comment-38</guid>
		<description>wow.

i want to re-ask one of sasha's queston: are they fluent in their language? it's like helen keller ... it didn't matter what she can do until she understood "water" and along with it, the concept of language. if they are still learning the alphabets by grade 11, i assume not. and that shocks me. so glad you're there and especially that you're going to do something about it.

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<p>i want to re-ask one of sasha&#8217;s queston: are they fluent in their language? it&#8217;s like helen keller &#8230; it didn&#8217;t matter what she can do until she understood &#8220;water&#8221; and along with it, the concept of language. if they are still learning the alphabets by grade 11, i assume not. and that shocks me. so glad you&#8217;re there and especially that you&#8217;re going to do something about it.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Peggy</title>
		<link>http://www.foundinceylon.com/2006/09/30/english-education-in-sri-lanka/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Peggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 03:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.foundinceylon.com/2006/09/30/english-education-in-sri-lanka/#comment-37</guid>
		<description>Adam welcome to the world of education...  Ideas like language pragmatics and meaningful writing are replaced with teaching to the test and completing the currriculum.  Sometimes it seems like all hell is going to break loose if you don't get the students to work to page "X" in the curriculum guide, then the work has to be met with a certain profeciency so you can hurrry up, finish and get to the next level.  Just like a video game.....Keep thinking about how the system is not always best for the learner and how you can create change when you are in charge.   O.K. enough of my band wagon I love to talk about the state of education and I am excited to read more about your experiences and insight.  I am so excited for you about your experience in S.L.  Ahhhhh to be young again, smart and hardworking!!!!!!! You are so cool.  Love, Peggy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Adam welcome to the world of education&#8230;  Ideas like language pragmatics and meaningful writing are replaced with teaching to the test and completing the currriculum.  Sometimes it seems like all hell is going to break loose if you don&#8217;t get the students to work to page &#8220;X&#8221; in the curriculum guide, then the work has to be met with a certain profeciency so you can hurrry up, finish and get to the next level.  Just like a video game&#8230;..Keep thinking about how the system is not always best for the learner and how you can create change when you are in charge.   O.K. enough of my band wagon I love to talk about the state of education and I am excited to read more about your experiences and insight.  I am so excited for you about your experience in S.L.  Ahhhhh to be young again, smart and hardworking!!!!!!! You are so cool.  Love, Peggy<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Adamzmom</title>
		<link>http://www.foundinceylon.com/2006/09/30/english-education-in-sri-lanka/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Adamzmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 06:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.foundinceylon.com/2006/09/30/english-education-in-sri-lanka/#comment-35</guid>
		<description>Insightful overview.  Do you have any idea how deaf some of the students are?
It sounds as though English is being taught as a first language.  Are they allowed to learn Sinhal?  It's apparent they don't know it, but didn't most of kids come to the school because of the cultural norms?  It would make sense that they wouldn't know Sinhal or Tamil very well.  Do most live there?  If so, they probably have not been exposed to many good role models for the languages.

Are you sure you know  EVERYTHING after just a couple days?  HMMM. A great challenge for you!  Im sure the kids like you already. How do they adapt to a foreigner?  How is the teacher/student ratio at RSS?

Post #8  has some good points.  
Also, please answer Adamzsis.  I ditto her questions and comments.  must run in the family.:)

Keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Insightful overview.  Do you have any idea how deaf some of the students are?<br />
It sounds as though English is being taught as a first language.  Are they allowed to learn Sinhal?  It&#8217;s apparent they don&#8217;t know it, but didn&#8217;t most of kids come to the school because of the cultural norms?  It would make sense that they wouldn&#8217;t know Sinhal or Tamil very well.  Do most live there?  If so, they probably have not been exposed to many good role models for the languages.</p>
<p>Are you sure you know  EVERYTHING after just a couple days?  HMMM. A great challenge for you!  Im sure the kids like you already. How do they adapt to a foreigner?  How is the teacher/student ratio at RSS?</p>
<p>Post #8  has some good points.<br />
Also, please answer Adamzsis.  I ditto her questions and comments.  must run in the family.:)</p>
<p>Keep up the good work!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: amanda</title>
		<link>http://www.foundinceylon.com/2006/09/30/english-education-in-sri-lanka/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 18:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.foundinceylon.com/2006/09/30/english-education-in-sri-lanka/#comment-34</guid>
		<description>ok im definitely confused. i thought the report I read from the previous volunteer touched upon a certain degree of privitization, not so much by a company, but rather no longer getting government support. about the educational centers that are owned and managed by private organizations with meager assistance from the govt -- yet this post makes the gov't sound quite involved - unless the educational bureaucracy you wrote of was not govt related...  or maybe, i misunderstood that part of her report?</description>
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		<title>By: joseph rainmound</title>
		<link>http://www.foundinceylon.com/2006/09/30/english-education-in-sri-lanka/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>joseph rainmound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 05:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.foundinceylon.com/2006/09/30/english-education-in-sri-lanka/#comment-33</guid>
		<description>Adam - 

Thanks for the report! I look forward to seeing further thoughts. It took me about a year before I could fully comment on the state of British education... be open to surprises. 

N, 

I can't answer for Adam but I can say that in terms of Deaf education getting students to copy rather than learn has a long and well-documented history. Since the language being read or written is, for Deaf students, often as much of a dead language as Latin, it does happen.</description>
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<p>Thanks for the report! I look forward to seeing further thoughts. It took me about a year before I could fully comment on the state of British education&#8230; be open to surprises. </p>
<p>N, </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t answer for Adam but I can say that in terms of Deaf education getting students to copy rather than learn has a long and well-documented history. Since the language being read or written is, for Deaf students, often as much of a dead language as Latin, it does happen.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: niknws</title>
		<link>http://www.foundinceylon.com/2006/09/30/english-education-in-sri-lanka/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>niknws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.foundinceylon.com/2006/09/30/english-education-in-sri-lanka/#comment-31</guid>
		<description>Adam,
What is your experience in the education field? Currently I am studying for my masters in Rhetoric and Composition (i graduate in MAY!!). In response to your comments about the situation you are facing I have questions and comments:

1) Have you looked into the connection between reading and writing. It's quite interesting. There is a current debate about if there is in fact a connection between the two. The issues in connection with this could directly relate to your situation.
2) Do you have ESL experience? 
3) It's apparent that there is a gap between visual (signed) communication and the written word; however I disagree completely with the following observation:

"careful trickery (through looking at what words are in the same in the question as in the text), a skill in being able to copy, and a HUGE amount of guesswork"

It seems apparent the children understand grammar if they are able to compose in the way you are stating they can. It is the "gap" (3) that could use assessing. A good place to start would be to assess whether they can spell (writing) in their own language and spell in SSL. Is the spelling carrying over between the two native languages? The answer to this could potentially set you looking in the right direction....

Small baby steps.

Regards,
N~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Adam,<br />
What is your experience in the education field? Currently I am studying for my masters in Rhetoric and Composition (i graduate in MAY!!). In response to your comments about the situation you are facing I have questions and comments:</p>
<p>1) Have you looked into the connection between reading and writing. It&#8217;s quite interesting. There is a current debate about if there is in fact a connection between the two. The issues in connection with this could directly relate to your situation.<br />
2) Do you have ESL experience?<br />
3) It&#8217;s apparent that there is a gap between visual (signed) communication and the written word; however I disagree completely with the following observation:</p>
<p>&#8220;careful trickery (through looking at what words are in the same in the question as in the text), a skill in being able to copy, and a HUGE amount of guesswork&#8221;</p>
<p>It seems apparent the children understand grammar if they are able to compose in the way you are stating they can. It is the &#8220;gap&#8221; (3) that could use assessing. A good place to start would be to assess whether they can spell (writing) in their own language and spell in SSL. Is the spelling carrying over between the two native languages? The answer to this could potentially set you looking in the right direction&#8230;.</p>
<p>Small baby steps.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
N~<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: AdamzDad</title>
		<link>http://www.foundinceylon.com/2006/09/30/english-education-in-sri-lanka/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>AdamzDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.foundinceylon.com/2006/09/30/english-education-in-sri-lanka/#comment-30</guid>
		<description>Went to a 100th bday party last nite, and the bday boy gave us 3 things to live by: Courage - Kindness - Love. You're demonstrating all three. 

BTW, try not to storm the Prime Minister's office in protest during your first month on the job. Wait till the 2nd month. ;-}</description>
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<p>BTW, try not to storm the Prime Minister&#8217;s office in protest during your first month on the job. Wait till the 2nd month. ;-}<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: AdamzSis</title>
		<link>http://www.foundinceylon.com/2006/09/30/english-education-in-sri-lanka/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>AdamzSis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 14:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.foundinceylon.com/2006/09/30/english-education-in-sri-lanka/#comment-29</guid>
		<description>Do tell us at some point how you teach 'em in a language you don't know and how they understand you. With the mesh of BSL, ASL, and bits of SSL, I'm wondering just how you'll teach them basic command of English. 

Great commentary. I realize Internet there is actually a luxury and you can't really type away to your heart's content but I hope at some point, you'll be able to tell us more about the fascinating learning process of communicating with the students, with the volunteers, and with the locals.  It'd be somewhat of a humbling experience. Deprived of direct pure ASL is humbling, I think. Do tell us the name sign they gave you! 

Love your insights and your ability to craft close-to-perfect assessment of what's happening in front of you (or behind you too!).

Keep writing, keep absorbing, and keep learning. 


xo</description>
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<p>Great commentary. I realize Internet there is actually a luxury and you can&#8217;t really type away to your heart&#8217;s content but I hope at some point, you&#8217;ll be able to tell us more about the fascinating learning process of communicating with the students, with the volunteers, and with the locals.  It&#8217;d be somewhat of a humbling experience. Deprived of direct pure ASL is humbling, I think. Do tell us the name sign they gave you! </p>
<p>Love your insights and your ability to craft close-to-perfect assessment of what&#8217;s happening in front of you (or behind you too!).</p>
<p>Keep writing, keep absorbing, and keep learning. </p>
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		<title>By: tayler</title>
		<link>http://www.foundinceylon.com/2006/09/30/english-education-in-sri-lanka/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>tayler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 13:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.foundinceylon.com/2006/09/30/english-education-in-sri-lanka/#comment-28</guid>
		<description>Adam, hopefully someday your students will be able to read your posts. :)

Does this mean you may be returning to Sri Lanka after January?</description>
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<p>Does this mean you may be returning to Sri Lanka after January?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: sasha</title>
		<link>http://www.foundinceylon.com/2006/09/30/english-education-in-sri-lanka/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>sasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 12:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.foundinceylon.com/2006/09/30/english-education-in-sri-lanka/#comment-27</guid>
		<description>adam,

im glad to see sri lanka is treatin you well and that u are enjoying all the rich expierences it and Rohana School for the Deaf has to offer you. Im beyond thrilled.  All the little perks and things you have observed amuses me greatly (like the whole ashok leyland on the trucks, the many maids who serve you 3 full meals a day in the beautiful home etc).

maybe you could try to visit one or 2 other deaf schools and see how they are doing with english, and hopefull give u some more insight into the best way to teach them english.  more knowledge always help.  but you're right- are they even fluent in their own native language?

its been a great joy reading your blogs.. makes me miss ceylon and india a lot... ill be in there in  a few months, eh?   keep us updated!

*hugs*  lotsa love, sasha</description>
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<p>im glad to see sri lanka is treatin you well and that u are enjoying all the rich expierences it and Rohana School for the Deaf has to offer you. Im beyond thrilled.  All the little perks and things you have observed amuses me greatly (like the whole ashok leyland on the trucks, the many maids who serve you 3 full meals a day in the beautiful home etc).</p>
<p>maybe you could try to visit one or 2 other deaf schools and see how they are doing with english, and hopefull give u some more insight into the best way to teach them english.  more knowledge always help.  but you&#8217;re right- are they even fluent in their own native language?</p>
<p>its been a great joy reading your blogs.. makes me miss ceylon and india a lot&#8230; ill be in there in  a few months, eh?   keep us updated!</p>
<p>*hugs*  lotsa love, sasha<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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